REMOVE THE UNCOVERED WOMAN FROM COVER OF THIS “ISLAMIC” SITE!

hey buddy, you just missed the ENTIRE point of the article. this place is for RELEVANT comments, not random comments by self-righteous individuals. by the way, this article is very accurate in its observations.

assalamu alaikum,

look, we kinda knew that would be the reaction immediately

for people who are supposed to be deep sometimes muslims are very superficial!

there is a difference in celebrating or condoning something versus ridiculing it

i just thought the article was crazy and yes, i suppose i coulda talked about it but “a picture is worth a thousand words”

just consider it as “exhibit a”

Well stated

Article or no article, why are you advocating a kaafirah mutabarrija? Honestly, “islamicnetwork” lost it more like “ikhwaninetwork” now ha.

And to the 1st anon - al-amr bi’l-mar’oof wa’n nahi ‘an al-munkar is a part of deeb not self-rigteous.

We should all see the bigger picture and beyond the forest.  This is part of dawa/educating others.  You speak in terms that they know.  Being offended by a woman on here reminds me of brothers who shun thier faces away at a woman at the masjid and recite istaghfar loudly and feel the need to vent, when in fact they just went to sears earlier and asked the saleslady every question in the world about a product they will never buy.  To the sister who wrote the article - Jazakhallakhair for being able to make the best use of what you have!

Just clarifying:

If you publish a non muslim woman’s face - your an Ikhwani?

Are you kidding me, say u are pls. Yoyo, what is the Islaamic ruling. No one cares about bigger pictures we do by book, sunnah and rulings.

Sas - IN just seems Ikhwani/Sahawi alot of misguidance and stupidity. It’s downhill since it ever start and more so since about last year.

wth?

No i am not -if its haraam, we will take it down obviosuly -

Either way, how does sinning (what you feel) (for the record, obviously we do not think it is haram) - how does sinning make one an ikhwani?

Just explain it so I understand.

I was talking to yoyo, not you re: the kidding me part, sorry unclear.

Sas I’m talking about belief/idea and opinion that are all over site

As for the pic, she is uncovered? Are you all sudden denying veil?

I am not talking about sinning means you are ikhwani, wake up.

point 1: Well, it seemed you made us out to be ikwani over this picture - so it was not clear. What other stuff makes us ikhwani? id love to hear.

point 2: As for the comment to yoyo, it may as well also be addressed to me - because I do not think it is haraam (otherwise again, it would not be up right now).

point 3: I do not ever remember denying veiling? or IN (I am sure we have an article on hijab)

Sas

now i know the condition of our many muslims. i thought the picture gave a deeper message to us. we should be thankful to the writer for pointing this out to us and warning us not to fall for dunya-loving people. please dont propagate the dunya by opposing this article and dont fall for their traps by not getting the real meaning of this article.

please dont make this a division among the muslims. noone is perfect, but i think this picture is perfect in illustrating the real point.

As’salaamu Alaykum-

With the permission of Allah, I would like to share this hadeeth with you.

One day An Nabi (sal Allaahu alayhi was’salaam) borrowed some money (on behalf of the new Muslims) from a Jew named Zaid ibn Su’na and they agreed that An Nabi (s) would pay the loan on a certain date and before the date was due The Prophet (s) was coming out of the masjid with the companions- some of the most ferce companions. Zaid ibn Suna wanted to test the Prophet (s) that if some one was to deal with him with ignorance and harshly that it would increase him even more in forbearance. So he went to the Prophet (s) and grabbed him in front of the Companions and said “Where is my money, I know you and I know your father and grandfather- that’s what they do, take money and not pay it back.” In narrating this hadeeth Zaid ibn Suna said; “I was watching Umar when as I was grabbing the Prophet (s).” Umar said; “Do you do this to the Prophet (sal Allaahu alayhi was’salaam) in my pressence?”

When The Prophet (s) heard Umar say this He was upset with Umar not the Jew. The Messenger of Allah (s) said “ Ya Umar-You should have ordered him to ask for his loan in a polite way, and you should have asked me to pay him his money, go and give him is money.”

On the way Zaid said to Umar; “Do you know who I am- he said I am Zaid ibn Suna (who was a famous Scholar among the jews at that time).” So Umar (r) said; “Why did you do that (his treatment of the Prophet)-He said; “I found in the teastament (i.e. the Torah) that Allaah mentioned this charactetistic of the Prophet (hilm) and I wanted to test him”. He turned to Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) and said; “I bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” And He gave that money for the sake of Allaah.

My point is we have to learn to deal with one another with kind treatment. I am sure had you come accross with better manners Fatima/Sas may have considered your feelings on the picture and complied with your responses. Where in the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah (sal Allaahu alayhi was’salaam) did he deal with his companions and for that manner non-Muslim in a harsh way and belittle them? We will never be able to attain the success that Allah gave to the Companions and those that followed them in goodness until we learn to love and respect each-other.

The one with good manners is better than the one who prays all night-or fasts all day. Because the one with good character-he benefits not only him/herself but the entire community. Where as the one who prays and fasts only benefits themselves.

I ask Allah to increase us in (hilm) and in good conduct and manners toward each-other, Allaahuma Ameen.

jazakumullahu khayran, all, for your points and support

actually it wasn’t due to good or bad manners (although they are appreciated)

the real issue is simply about making a point and what are the methods you can use to do that

many object to the way in which this point was made, and i respect that because it’s a legitimate concern

i don’t even mind anyone enjoining us to what they think is right - may Allah reward you for that

someone mentioned we were an “ikhwani” site

well, let me make clear that we are not a site which is catering to any specific group out there

you’re welcome to post your opinions whether you are a muslim, sufi, salafi, ikhwani, hijabi, niqabi, jew, christian, zionist, atheist, whatever

we talk about islam, living in this country, politics, everything basically and to as wide an audience as wants to see it

so it might be frustrating or disturbing at times but that’s what IN is basically

(btw i felt it was sad that it was a political article but people couldn’t get past the picture - it seems that living here, we’ve become pretty average Americans - more concerned with clothing than anything else - the first thing a non-Muslim asks is “why do you wear that” and not “what do you believe”?)

assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah to all of you

assalamu alaikum,

what’s with this place; it’s so full of idiots...like everyone is a goddamn faqeeh...allahul musta3an.

anyways back to the article:  personally i was kind of put off by that pic and i was like *wtf*

i read the article but i was still obviously pissed due to the pic…

...however when i cleared my mind i thought about what was being said and it’s true; the irony of western thought and how superficial the media is...it’s all about capitalism; nothing more nothing less.

from a literary point of view: i beleive the article was written quite hastily and could have been imrpoved

(and yes i’ll pass personality attacks this time)

you shouldnt have taken down the picture...it was the funniest part of the whole article. plus it was the whole POINT of the article...god cant these stupid self-righteous individuals get over themselves..they prolly look at 100 uncovered girls each day and on PURPOSE

And? We’re discussing rulings not sins, are you really that stupid?

please please, people…
Allah (s) likes to pardon and see good manner. So no name calling or loose words… no matter how much you want to cover it with “*”.

no hard feelings… not lecturing, im only sharing my concern.

my brother forwarded this article to his co-worker (not Muslim) and here was his comment (which he said we could put up):

pretty good.  i[’m not sure why a newspaper would do that...well, yeah I can guess why....

I particularly liked these words, they represent some of what I stand for:

“To divide and conquer the very people one claims to serve for purposes of self-interest is the vilest form of government.  To willfully keep the people ignorant, poor, and full of hatred based on race and other petty differences is the worst form of subjugation.  To dangle toys in front of people and threaten them with the loss of their toys is the most effective form of persuasion.”

And also, light is shed greatly on the idea that “THE DAY THAT FOREVER CHANGED AMERICA” is contradicted by the later statement “...this great nation will never be intimidated.  People are going about their daily lives, working and shopping and playing, worshipping at churches and synagogues and mosques, going to movies and to baseball games.  Life in America is going forward…” Apparently, to me (and your sister of course), it doesn’t look like things have really changed if “we” are all going about life as usual.  If that day had changed america forever, we’d be doing things to change the decadent, greedy, imperialistic ways that currently reside as part of our value system and culture.  We’d be looking at ways to decrease pollution and decreasing the expectations that material goods are #1 in our lives...even over human life.  Maybe stop to help someone in need when they are injured on the side of the road or something...instead of passing them by b/c you’re already running late for a baseball game.  This place hasn’t changed and, in fact, I believe it has gotten worse - people are more than ever proud and displaying pride and voicing that god is blessing this nation b/c it’s the best and all that garbage.  what about the rest of the world and humanity?  are they just trash to be left to perrish?  I wish articles like this could be the ones on the front page of newspapers and news websites....maybe then people would actually be subjected to seeing at least some light about the way things REALLY are here.  Not just seeing the toys and fancy gadgets that are used to lure us all into supporting the elite class’ goals to become and stay rich, powerful, and in authoritive rule.